The old Justin Verlander is still in there somewhere

SPORTIVO
Article arrow_drop_down

The Giants lost to the Phillies on Wednesday afternoon, 13-0, but it wasn’t as close as it sounds. Bryce Harper had four extra-base hits, including a home run, and Jesús Luzardo might have had the best outing any starter has had against the Giants this season. Tristan Beck couldn’t get anyone out in the middle innings, and the game was so lopsided that Mike Yastrzemski pitched the ninth.

Advertisement

It wasn’t a complicated game to understand. The overall series was a success, but the finale was a stinker. You don’t need any silver linings, and it’s not my intention to force feed them to you like lima beans.

So take this article in the spirit in which it’s intended. It would have been a much more enjoyable read if the Giants had, say, won the game, 13-0, but the outcome was never going to change the premise. A disastrous, six-run second inning wouldn’t have changed the premise. The first three outs were all anyone needed to reach this conclusion:

Holy heck, did Justin Verlander look good on Wednesday.

The box score only hints at it. Six innings, no walks and seven strikeouts is a mighty fine line, but it’s dragged down by the two earned runs and four total runs allowed. The contact was mostly soft, though, and the hitters were generally uncomfortable. It was a strong start overall.

Verlander probably doesn’t care much about consolation prizes right now. He still hasn’t won a game for the Giants in 15 starts, which is the longest winless streak to begin a season from a starting pitcher in franchise history. The major-league record to start a season is 23, so he doesn’t have to worry about that just yet. But if he had to choose between “looking like he had his best stuff” and “winning,” he’d choose the latter every time.

Still, while Verlander’s winless streak has been plodding along, it’s been far too easy to forget about his upside. The Giants didn’t just sign him to be an anthropomorphic 4.50 ERA with a lot of cool stories and helpful advice. They were hoping he could still offer upside and run prevention, something more than a fifth starter to get them through 162 games. They were hoping for a guy with a chance to start postseason games. Heck, maybe even an elimination game, if needed. He was supposed to be more than a guy; he was supposed to be effective at preventing runs.

Advertisement

As recently as last week, when he was getting shelled in Sacramento, that version of Verlander seemed impossibly far away. Even bringing it up in passing would have seemed delusional. Then he threw some stuff to the wall, and it stuck. Literally.

“I threw some balls against the wall and felt some different mechanics that I’ve been thinking about, and I’m optimistic that will be the next thing that works. I’ve had two or three instances in my career where I kind of had to reinvent the wheel and everything I’ve known to try to fix something that doesn’t work.

“I feel like I’m kind of there where it’s like, ‘All right, well, now it’s time to just throw s— against the wall and see what works.’”

So to recap: Verlander got torched and threw a few balls against the wall. Then he had aha! moment about his mechanics, and he featured his best stuff of the season in his next start. It’s not exactly a classic baseball tale, but it sure is linear.

And I’m not being hyperbolic with the stuff. Again, forget everything that happened after the first inning, even though it was a quality start overall. Start with the very first pitch of the game.

Not every pitcher has the same pregame routine, but it’s easy to imagine this pitch being in Verlander’s head for the last five days. He was going to start the game off with his best fastball — both in terms of velocity and location. It’s hard to imagine a better first pitch of a game.

Here’s the first slider that Verlander threw for a strike. It was a quality enough pitch that he got a swinging strike, even though it was in the strike zone.

Here’s Verlander’s first changeup. It’s possible that it might be his best executed pitch as a Giant, no hyperbole. It was tempting without being hittable, an out if he swings, a mostly harmless 1-2 if he doesn’t.

Even his misses were great on Wednesday, at least early. And while we won’t get to the sweeper, we’ll end the look at the first inning with the final pitch, an absolute pearl of a curveball to Bryce Harper.

Look at how high that curve is at its peak. Harper’s eyes must have been big as Jolly Ranchers. It’s truly remarkable that the pitch ended up out of the strike zone, close enough to where it’s not unthinkable that Patrick Bailey frames it for a strike.

Those are four pitches in the same half-inning. They about as good as Verlander can throw them. Big whoop, you’re thinking. The Giants lost the game. They lose all of his games, more or less. Pretty videos of isolated pitches don’t lead to wins.

Advertisement

All of this is to point out that Verlander still might be more than a generic, innings-absorbing veteran who shuffles between supremely hittable and competent for five innings. In a perverse way, it almost makes sense to take those four pitches and use them to treat Verlander like a prospect.

Let me explain. Pretend that Verlander isn’t a living baseball legend. Pretend he’s a 22-year-old who was drafted in second round the year before. And, make no mistake, the stuff that Verlander showed off in those four pitches is very much worthy of a second-round draft grade, at least. Now you have a 22-year-old kid with a flashes of brilliance in the rotation. Every so often, he’ll throw a pitch that gives you ideas. Greedy ideas.

You stick with that hypothetical young pitcher. You’re going to need him. He’s going to need development time, and he’ll take some lumps as he figures it all out, but that’s gonna be your best shot. You wait out the turbulence and bet on the talent.

That’s Verlander, with the minor difference that he’s about twice the age of an actual prospect. But you’re grading his stuff as if he’s a prospect, as if you’re more interested in the future than the present. You’re looking to see how he’ll help a future Giants team as much as he’ll help the current one. The only difference is that this future Giants team is in October, not 2028.

If that’s the rubric, Verlander has passed. The guy the Giants hoped they were signing is still in there. It might take a lot of effort to get the version of him out. It will take stops and starts, IL trips and balls thrown against a wall, and it might take an uncomfortably long winless streak, but the dream is still alive. He’s not just supposed to be Jake Peavy crossed with Yoda, something between an innings eater and a mascot. He’s supposed to be a badass that other teams have to worry about.

Here’s where Verlander is different from some of the other Giants who have struggled for lengthy stretches this year, from Willy Adames and Bailey to Jung Hoo Lee. With those guys, there’s no backup plan. They are the plan. You commit to it until it’s completely obviously untenable. There isn’t a Casey Schmitt-for-Tyler Fitzgerald type tweak to make when things start to go sour with them.

Verlander is closer to that kind of player, even if it seems like there’s a fix right there, whether it’s Carson Whisenhunt, Carson Seymour or another unknown quantity. There will be an option to replace him as he goes through winless streaks and ups and downs, at least hypothetically speaking.

Advertisement

Ignore them. Verlander has shown enough to stick. He’s deserving of the same patience that you’d save for a top prospect, mostly because the goal is the same: You’re betting on his future performance. More specifically, you’re betting on that future performance being a lot better than any of the other options you’ll have.

And that’s how you can look at a dull, faceless 13-0 loss and think the Giants might be on to something. It takes a little imagination, and it forces you to take a guy who played Super Nintendo growing up and pretend that he’s 22 years old. But the Verlander who got the Giants excited in the offseason is still in there. He’s a reverse-prospect for them now, and it’s worth watching his starts to see if that first-inning performance can become his new normal. It’s what the Giants thought they were paying for in the first place, and it’s a ceiling worth chasing.

(Photo: D. Ross Cameron / Imagn Images)

This news was originally published on this post .

About the author

About the author call_made

SPORTIVO

More posts

trending_flat
Athlete NIL Deals with Collectives Being Rejected By New Agency

The new agency in charge of regulating name, image, likeness deals in college sports sent a letter to schools Thursday saying it had rejected deals between players and donor-backed collectives formed over the past several years to funnel money to athletes or their schools.Those arrangements hold no "valid business purpose," the memo said, and don't adhere to rules that call for outside NIL deals to be between players and companies that provide goods or services to the general public for profit.The letter to Division I athletic directors could be the next step in shuttering today's version of the collective, groups that are closely affiliated with schools and that, in the early days of NIL after July 2021, proved the most efficient way for schools to indirectly cut deals with players.Since then, the landscape has changed yet again with the $2.8 […]

Neymar se irrita com marcação em amistoso do Santos e torcedores reprovam postura: “Não pode tocar nele”

Neymar se irritou em amistoso do Santos (Reprodução)Neymar, buscando o ritmo de jogo ideal, foi escalado por Cléber Xavier em Santos x Desportiva-ES. Levando em conta o jogo adiado contra o Palmeiras, pelo Brasileirão, o Peixe utilizou o duelo para se preparar antes de voltar aos gramados de forma oficial. Apesar do caráter festivo, o jogo não contou com um clima leve, algo refletido em lance do primeiro tempo. PUBLICIDADE PUBLICIDADEBastante marcado, Neymar motivou uma confusão logo aos 10 minutos. Recebendo um tranco pelas costas, o atacante do Santos, reagindo de forma ríspida, empurrou Alex Galo. Consequentemente, houve a necessidade que os demais jogadores, assim como o árbitro, intervissem para que a situação não piorasse.Torcedores reprovam conduta de NeymarComo o jogo sequer tinha importância de três pontos ou classificação, o comportamento de Neymar foi reprovado. Diante da necessidade de um […]

Everton Cebolinha vira ‘negociável’ no Flamengo e Fábio Vargas revela postura do Grêmio: “Nega interesse neste momento”

Everton Cebolinha em ação pelo Flamengo (Foto: Divulgação/CRF)A janela de transferências está oficialmente aberta a partir desta quinta-feira (10), e as sondagens entre clubes brasileiros e estrangeiros já estão a todo vapor. Este é o momento em que as equipes buscam reforçar o elenco e negociar jogadores que não vêm sendo aproveitados. PUBLICIDADE PUBLICIDADEDentro desse contexto, o Grêmio teve seu nome ligado a um velho conhecido, Everton Cebolinha. Revelado pelo clube gaúcho, o jogador conta com alto grau de aprovação entre os torcedores e costuma ser lembrado com entusiasmo em possíveis retornos, mesmo que ainda seja uma vontade da maioria, essa volta não deve acontecer por agora.Cebolinha é ‘negociável’, mas Grêmio não é candidatoCom um elenco recheado de opções, o Flamengo tem considerado uma reformulação em seu plantel para viabilizar novos investimentos. Seguindo essa linha, segundo o GE, Everton Cebolinha […]

trending_flat
Yankees’ Jazz Chisholm Jr. rounds out Home Run Derby field as final member

NEW YORK — Shortly after he was named an American League All-Star earlier this week, Jazz Chisholm Jr. started dreaming about possibly participating in the Home Run Derby. He told his stepdad, Geron Sands, that if the league office asked him to participate, he would need to start warming up his arm.Advertisement“He’s been coaching me from when I was a baby, so we’ve talked about it,” Chisholm said. “Like, ‘Yeah, you’re gonna be my Home Run Derby thrower when I get to the league.’ I used to hit bombs as a kid, bro.”Chisholm will get his wish.On Thursday, he was named the final participant in this year’s Home Run Derby, which will take place next Monday at Truist Park in Atlanta. Music to our ears 🎷@j_chisholm3 is set to compete in the 2025 Home Run Derby! pic.twitter.com/doDMLn5KHf — New York […]

trending_flat
Chargers RB Najee Harris suffers eye injury in fireworks accident

Los Angeles Chargers running back Najee Harris suffered a “superficial eye injury” in a fireworks accident, Harris’ agent Doug Hendrickson said in a statement Thursday.The injury occurred while Harris was at a July 4 event, according to the statement. Harris “is fully expected to be ready for the upcoming NFL season,” Hendrickson said. The statement added that the “mishap resulted in injuries to several attendees.”AdvertisementVeteran players will report to training camp at the Chargers’ facility in El Segundo, Calif., on Wednesday. Rookies will report on Saturday.Harris, who spent his first four NFL seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, signed a one-year deal with the Chargers in March. Less than two months later, the Chargers used their first-round pick, No. 22 overall, on North Carolina running back Omarion Hampton. Harris and Hampton are expected to form a one-two punch in the Chargers’ […]

trending_flat
Super Bowl 60 futures picks, sleepers, best bets, predictions: NFL expert high on Baltimore Ravens

The NFL regular season opens with the 2025 NFL Kickoff Game between the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday, September 4, in Philadelphia. The Eagles are defending Super Bowl champions and are listed at +650 to repeat as champions in the latest Super Bowl 60 odds. With most NFL rosters locked in until training camps get underway, we now have a clear picture of what teams will enter the season as top Super Bowl contenders. SportsLine expert handicapper Jimmie Kaylor has broken down the latest betting trends and NFL futures odds and locked in his top picks to win Super Bowl LX in Santa Clara next February. Before locking in any Super Bowl 60 futures bets, you'll want to see what Kaylor has to say. New users can even take advantage of the DraftKings promo code offering $150 in bonus bets instantly […]

Related

trending_flat
Athlete NIL Deals with Collectives Being Rejected By New Agency

The new agency in charge of regulating name, image, likeness deals in college sports sent a letter to schools Thursday saying it had rejected deals between players and donor-backed collectives formed over the past several years to funnel money to athletes or their schools.Those arrangements hold no "valid business purpose," the memo said, and don't adhere to rules that call for outside NIL deals to be between players and companies that provide goods or services to the general public for profit.The letter to Division I athletic directors could be the next step in shuttering today's version of the collective, groups that are closely affiliated with schools and that, in the early days of NIL after July 2021, proved the most efficient way for schools to indirectly cut deals with players.Since then, the landscape has changed yet again with the $2.8 […]

Neymar se irrita com marcação em amistoso do Santos e torcedores reprovam postura: “Não pode tocar nele”

Neymar se irritou em amistoso do Santos (Reprodução)Neymar, buscando o ritmo de jogo ideal, foi escalado por Cléber Xavier em Santos x Desportiva-ES. Levando em conta o jogo adiado contra o Palmeiras, pelo Brasileirão, o Peixe utilizou o duelo para se preparar antes de voltar aos gramados de forma oficial. Apesar do caráter festivo, o jogo não contou com um clima leve, algo refletido em lance do primeiro tempo. PUBLICIDADE PUBLICIDADEBastante marcado, Neymar motivou uma confusão logo aos 10 minutos. Recebendo um tranco pelas costas, o atacante do Santos, reagindo de forma ríspida, empurrou Alex Galo. Consequentemente, houve a necessidade que os demais jogadores, assim como o árbitro, intervissem para que a situação não piorasse.Torcedores reprovam conduta de NeymarComo o jogo sequer tinha importância de três pontos ou classificação, o comportamento de Neymar foi reprovado. Diante da necessidade de um […]

Everton Cebolinha vira ‘negociável’ no Flamengo e Fábio Vargas revela postura do Grêmio: “Nega interesse neste momento”

Everton Cebolinha em ação pelo Flamengo (Foto: Divulgação/CRF)A janela de transferências está oficialmente aberta a partir desta quinta-feira (10), e as sondagens entre clubes brasileiros e estrangeiros já estão a todo vapor. Este é o momento em que as equipes buscam reforçar o elenco e negociar jogadores que não vêm sendo aproveitados. PUBLICIDADE PUBLICIDADEDentro desse contexto, o Grêmio teve seu nome ligado a um velho conhecido, Everton Cebolinha. Revelado pelo clube gaúcho, o jogador conta com alto grau de aprovação entre os torcedores e costuma ser lembrado com entusiasmo em possíveis retornos, mesmo que ainda seja uma vontade da maioria, essa volta não deve acontecer por agora.Cebolinha é ‘negociável’, mas Grêmio não é candidatoCom um elenco recheado de opções, o Flamengo tem considerado uma reformulação em seu plantel para viabilizar novos investimentos. Seguindo essa linha, segundo o GE, Everton Cebolinha […]

trending_flat
Yankees’ Jazz Chisholm Jr. rounds out Home Run Derby field as final member

NEW YORK — Shortly after he was named an American League All-Star earlier this week, Jazz Chisholm Jr. started dreaming about possibly participating in the Home Run Derby. He told his stepdad, Geron Sands, that if the league office asked him to participate, he would need to start warming up his arm.Advertisement“He’s been coaching me from when I was a baby, so we’ve talked about it,” Chisholm said. “Like, ‘Yeah, you’re gonna be my Home Run Derby thrower when I get to the league.’ I used to hit bombs as a kid, bro.”Chisholm will get his wish.On Thursday, he was named the final participant in this year’s Home Run Derby, which will take place next Monday at Truist Park in Atlanta. Music to our ears 🎷@j_chisholm3 is set to compete in the 2025 Home Run Derby! pic.twitter.com/doDMLn5KHf — New York […]

trending_flat
Chargers RB Najee Harris suffers eye injury in fireworks accident

Los Angeles Chargers running back Najee Harris suffered a “superficial eye injury” in a fireworks accident, Harris’ agent Doug Hendrickson said in a statement Thursday.The injury occurred while Harris was at a July 4 event, according to the statement. Harris “is fully expected to be ready for the upcoming NFL season,” Hendrickson said. The statement added that the “mishap resulted in injuries to several attendees.”AdvertisementVeteran players will report to training camp at the Chargers’ facility in El Segundo, Calif., on Wednesday. Rookies will report on Saturday.Harris, who spent his first four NFL seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, signed a one-year deal with the Chargers in March. Less than two months later, the Chargers used their first-round pick, No. 22 overall, on North Carolina running back Omarion Hampton. Harris and Hampton are expected to form a one-two punch in the Chargers’ […]

trending_flat
Super Bowl 60 futures picks, sleepers, best bets, predictions: NFL expert high on Baltimore Ravens

The NFL regular season opens with the 2025 NFL Kickoff Game between the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday, September 4, in Philadelphia. The Eagles are defending Super Bowl champions and are listed at +650 to repeat as champions in the latest Super Bowl 60 odds. With most NFL rosters locked in until training camps get underway, we now have a clear picture of what teams will enter the season as top Super Bowl contenders. SportsLine expert handicapper Jimmie Kaylor has broken down the latest betting trends and NFL futures odds and locked in his top picks to win Super Bowl LX in Santa Clara next February. Before locking in any Super Bowl 60 futures bets, you'll want to see what Kaylor has to say. New users can even take advantage of the DraftKings promo code offering $150 in bonus bets instantly […]

Be the first to leave a comment

Leave a comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Sportivo bridges the gap between talent and opportunity.

About SPORTIVO

Sportivo Network is a dedicated social platform for sports enthusiasts, athletes, and scouts. Whether you’re an aspiring athlete looking for opportunities, a coach searching for talent, or simply a sports lover wanting to connect with like-minded people, Sportivo is your go-to network. With features like direct messaging, profile showcasing, and talent scouting, Sportivo bridges the gap between talent and opportunity. Here, you can share your achievements, interact with professionals, and open doors to the next level in your sports journey. Join Sportivo Network – because every great athlete deserves to be discovered!
Copyright © 2025 SPORTIVO News. and SPORTIVO Network. All rights reserved.

Login to enjoy full advantages

Please login or subscribe to continue.

Go Premium!

Enjoy the full advantage of the premium access.

Stop following

Unfollow Cancel

Cancel subscription

Are you sure you want to cancel your subscription? You will lose your Premium access and stored playlists.

Go back Confirm cancellation